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Pajero problem. Help

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Pajero problem. Help

Postby Frenchfarmer on Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:28 pm

Trying to help an old lady in the village.

1994 2.8 Tdi Pajero V46WG

Symptoms:-
Put daft wee plastic key thing in slot, put key in Ignition, turn key and all lights up as normal but the wee red light on immobiliser slot keeps flashing. (Key thing has a sliding shield and when I pull back the sleeve there is a wee bit of circuit board with three contact strips either side. I've tried both of her's so I think it is the wee socket.)
Turn key to start and.....click.
Dash lights do not dim. ( I fitted new batteries last winter as the original ones wanted to go back to Japan and retire.)
Glow Plugs are new.
It is a manual box but it won't tow-start.
If there is a fault in the immobiliser would it prevent the starter from turning and also prevent tow-starting?
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Re: Pajero problem. Help

Postby BoxCleva on Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:49 pm

Depends on how it was wired.
Normally it's the stop solenoid on the pump that is wired into the immobiliser (which would prevent a tow start), but it's not beyond the realms of possibility that the starter is also disabled.
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Re: Pajero problem. Help

Postby snapper on Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:59 pm

Volvo's, well the 850's are the same. The err somewhat expensive one that I picked up a couple of weeks ago had an 'incident' last week at the local tesco filling station. It was going well until I filled it with petrol, after that it wouldnt start with the key although it did lock all the doors when you turned the ignition key.

RAC bod tips up to sort things out and we dragged it over into the carpark next door, me being of a nervous nature didnt really want him mucking about with all that sparky leccy stuff next to a class 1 fuel pump and tank... flame me if you wish (ha ha... ged it? flame...) but I really couldnt do with all the p*ss taking I'd get at work if a spark had set summit off.

Anyway, we dragged this thing over the road with me trying to hide behind the steering wheel in case someone spotted me and RAC supa mech had a poke about under the bonnet and comes up smiling after about 20 mins to say yer starter motors f*ked guv (or words to that effect) thats why it won't go. I won't say what he mumbled when I pointed out to him that the bl**dy starter motor had nothing to do with the stupid central locking (I had by now locked the keys in the car cos I had left them in the ignition and the central locking was doing it's own thing, good job OiC HF had her set in her bag).

In an attempt to save face, supa mech say's jump in mate and I'll give you a push start :o He didnt even blink when I pointed out to him it was a Volvo and not exactly a small un at that and the boot was like full.... (and I meant FULL) so it might be a tad heavy to push... But no, he insisted so a push start it was... He got about 1 car length before deciding that it would be easier to carry on breathing and a damm sight quicker to start if he used his van to drag it round the car park for a bit. Once he got his breath back and his face had returned to a more normal colour from the bright red he was sporting, the car was neatly hooked up and ready to go.

Now the first attempt was with it in gear and the ignition on, nowt. Not even a pathectic swedish splutter.... But if you actually turned the key as though to start it by the starter motor while towing it (and with it in gear) it fired up nicely and kept running with the key in the normal run posistion.

RAC van was quickly unhooked and he was off down the road like a teenager thats just been told to get a job and pay some housekeeping....

The actual fault? Not the starter motor for a start, it was a combination of a loose neg terminal on the battery and bluey green vertigre in the ground cable crimps thus making high resistance joints all round on the earth circuit, in particular the final two lengths of 20mm cable that link the battery neg to the engine and body (there are about 15 other earth leads, each about 1.5mm that terminat on the battery clamp as well which is why it ran at all).
This posting may have been helpfull, on the other hand probably not... Either way, I may have had drink when posting it in which case it's probably not as helpfull as it could have been

Work safe, and remember all technical problems can be resolved with a hammer, the trick is knowing where to hit it and how big a hammer to use (I often find it may also help to have a spare bit in the shed to replace the bit you have just mullered ;) )

Work in Progress (or not as the case may be) I give you.... 'O-no' the truck.

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Work in Progress (or not as the case may be) I give you.... 'Truck'

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Re: Pajero problem. SORTED!

Postby Frenchfarmer on Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:04 pm

Jap import british cat 4 alarm as per insurance at the time. (Meta System M36 T2.)
Like an idiot I listened to someone else's diagnostic but should have gone in with a clear mind and started at the beginning. :oops:
Lesson learned.
It was the " receptacle " for the passive fob. It had lost one of it's contacts so I took a thin slice off the end of a female spade connector then lobbed one of the curly bits and flattened the other so it would fit back into the plug and soldered it to what was left of the original connector.
Job's a good'un I hope.
If any one knows where I can get a replacement "receptacle" for this alarm Josie would be very grateful.
If you are over 70 and as young as you ever were and interesting and intelligent I've got her number but will have to verify your physical health before I could give it to you. :wink:
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Re: Pajero problem. Help

Postby snapper on Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:10 pm

Try here
This posting may have been helpfull, on the other hand probably not... Either way, I may have had drink when posting it in which case it's probably not as helpfull as it could have been

Work safe, and remember all technical problems can be resolved with a hammer, the trick is knowing where to hit it and how big a hammer to use (I often find it may also help to have a spare bit in the shed to replace the bit you have just mullered ;) )

Work in Progress (or not as the case may be) I give you.... 'O-no' the truck.

Comments on 'O-no' the truck may be left here

Work in Progress (or not as the case may be) I give you.... 'Truck'

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Re: Pajero problem. Help

Postby Frenchfarmer on Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:50 pm

If you need something done quickly just ask a busy woman then get the f"k out of her way.
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Re: Pajero problem. Help

Postby Frenchfarmer on Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:33 pm

New "Receptacle" on the way. :D

Admin can lock this now please.
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