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Re: FAO The Engineer

Postby Road Hog on Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:08 pm

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Re: FAO The Engineer

Postby gregster on Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:28 pm

I think we should leave it as is...members can get a feel for other members by reading their posts...

If we start a feedback type system, then this needs to be implemented, maintained and policed, which is more work for admin and mods, and they have enough to do already to keep the site running as it does...
Thing is there is no set standard that could be applied to feedback...each case would have to be dealt with individually...which would mean massive resources.

For example...fussy buyer would be dissatisfied with anything but immaculate part...overeasy buyer would be just glad if it arrived and worked...
Fussy seller would expect communication and payment to be immediate...overeasy seller would be happy so long as the deal went through and they got paid within a month...
So there are no easy standards with these things as it comes down to individuals and their own expectations and standards...and hence feedback left would be largely irrelevant and inaccurate...

On ebay, I put my own sellers policy on my listings, which tells people exactly how I do business...and that they should shop elsewhere if they didnt agree..
This unfortunately is not conducive to a community atmosphere that we strive to maintain on here...it is more suited to business only transactions between strangers..

I have a philosophy with selling/rehoming stuff...
I dont generally give credit to friends (thats the easiest way to loose friends)...If they have stuff then I expect them to pay me before they start spending money on other stuff, and generally I will only do this on stuff I dont really need the money for...if someone lands me out of pocket or doesnt pay in good time...then they wont get anything from me again...
As for everyone else...I expect to be paid upfront...having no paypal account is no excuse, it takes minutes to sign up...
This might seem a bit harsh, but it is the only way that works...
Letting people have loads of stuff that you cant afford to loose without payment is downright foolish, I think, and leads to bad feeling and b1tching on here...

As for sellers who dont respond....go else where, find someone else who can provide the things you need...if a seller is that unreliable then I would not be keen to hand money over on the hope that the parts actually arrive...and then would I trust the parts they supply if their business ethics are that questionable, I dont know...??

Bottom line is...buy and sell with people you know and trust on here, if you buy something pay for it, if you are selling something get paid before you post the item (or you will not only loose the item, but your money too on postage!).
FOG express is great, but get payment sorted before the goods leave, unless dealing with foggers that you personally know and trust...

In the main things work really well on here, with loads of pleased buyer and seller foggers..its only a few individuals that seem to want to spoil things...

my vote is dont let em, carry on the way we are and only deal once you trust the members involved.

Anyway...there ends the thoughts of Gregster :lol:


Lets kill this thread as moaning about the isolated bad things on here is boring...

but learn some basic common sense lessons from it so we dont go here again!!
Check out the index thread below where pics/reviews from all our past meets can be found!!!!
click here for the SE Events Index/links Thread...see all the reviews and whats coming up soon!

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Re: FAO The Engineer

Postby fogman on Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:47 pm

wise words gregster :wink: you can be serious sometimes :D
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Re: FAO The Engineer

Postby andysd1 on Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:51 pm

i feel that one greg, got the T shirt
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Re: FAO The Engineer

Postby Road Hog on Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:54 pm

:ggod post: :shock: :shock: breedin eck Gregster two sensible posts in one thread :shock: :shock: :ggod post:
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Re: FAO The Engineer

Postby Drift on Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:56 pm

I feel this thread has run its course, would that be the general consensus ?
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Re: FAO The Engineer

Postby fogman on Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:00 am

yeah turn the light out drift :)
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Re: FAO The Engineer

Postby Road Hog on Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:00 am

Leave it a little longer just in case The Engineer logs on & wants to reply :roll:
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Re: FAO The Engineer

Postby gregster on Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:00 am

Check out the index thread below where pics/reviews from all our past meets can be found!!!!
click here for the SE Events Index/links Thread...see all the reviews and whats coming up soon!

Looks like I'm in trouble with the Mrs's again...
She asked me what I'd most like to do to her body...
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Re: FAO The Engineer

Postby drinksoptional on Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:09 am

suffer in silence
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Re: FAO The Engineer

Postby drinksoptional on Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:21 am

To be honest i expected something a little more constructive, yes maybe having post complianing is not a good idea so i reckon if you have a bad sale let admin know and they can decided cause you cannot hide from this problem post like this will appear again admin
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Re: FAO The Engineer

Postby Drift on Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:10 pm

Nothing more can be added by Admin or Mods, there are rules and as I keep banging on they have to be followed, If a person does not like the Sales Section rules they have various choices,

1. Dont join the forum,

2. Dont sell on the forum,

3. Dont buy from the forum.


SIMPLES!!!!!

Now can we please stop trying to pick holes in what is a very soild and clear set of rules.
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Re: FAO The Engineer

Postby Road Hog on Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:36 pm

This thread is left open in anticipation of a reply from The Engineer......... ALL others WILL be deleted.........thank you in advance for your co operation in this
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Re: FAO The Engineer

Postby jellybaby on Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:35 pm

personaly have brought my car of the engineer had no problems with contact on no problems with the truck only the one i caused. give him chance maybe theres been a problem
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Re: FAO The Engineer

Postby alex on Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:19 pm

Asking Admin to moderate sales and decide over complaints with impartiality is a bit rich for a volunteer run site. There have been idiots run rampage and rip individuals off with faulty goods, these after much debate behind closed doors have been quietly removed from the site.

As in cases of sales in private between individuals, the mods/admin cannot interveine as they do not have access to all data, they are not police, have no access to pm's cant see both sides to each story. To take sides without all the story from all sides would be imoral.

It does confuse the life from me how blown out of proportion this post has become. I myself have been burned buying faulty goods off a member here, through pm sales, a wasted £100, I did moan in private to the mods to watch an indidvidual, but understood the limitations of the site.
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Re: FAO The Engineer

Postby FUDDY MUCKER on Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:27 pm

I for one will stand to the defence of rick (the engineer). I've always found him to be very reliable and has done no end of running around sourcing parts and helping other members with there truck issues.

Personally I think issues like this should not be posted on open forums, and should postings like this appear, then they should be deleted without warning or explaination by admins or mods.

I think people forget, this is a family forum, run by volunteers, for the members. Constant grief like this does'nt help anyone or anything.

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Re: FAO The Engineer

Postby Road Hog on Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:59 pm

Ok,today I was passing The Engineers residence on a non forum related matter,so called in for a cuppa,during the ensuing chat I was availed of the situation pertinent to this thread,the details of which I shall not go into but it transpires that Reeco has had his phone number since the onset of negotiations.
The reason for a breakdown is of no consequence to any other than the two parties involved,but given the above fact this thread can only have been started to cause trouble.
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