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Postby colley on Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:18 pm

My other half drives an 06 Honda Civic 2.2 diesel. The problem we have is the clutch has started slipping in 2nd,3rd,4th,5th,6th gears :twisted:
I was not to happy when she told me today :evil: Any way i thought O well we have to get it sorted and phoned my local garage that i use to be quoted ready for it £940 :shock: They told me its a common fault on the civic 2.2 as they have a dual mass flywheel. Any way i told him where to go and phoned Honda and got quoted £750. Both said about the dual mass flywheel and how that may need changing to costing an extra £1000 :shock: :twisted:
I have since been on a civic forum who have confirmed that the flywheel will more than likely need changing.

This my dilemma DO I
1, Have the clutch changed and risk that the fly wheel is OK. and chance that the fly wheel has plenty of life in and does not fail in the near future.

2, Have the clutch and fly wheel done and keep the car having to borrow money.

3, Part ex the car in as soon as possible and get a new car.

Your thoughts please.
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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby BoxCleva on Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:20 pm

PX if it were me.

I'm sure Jammy has just had the same problem with his Golf, but I'm sure his bill was in the 1000's :shock:
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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby gregster on Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:25 pm

If its just slipping then its probably just the clutch plate mate...was there any other noises vibrations that would indicate a dmf failure?
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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby Drift on Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:28 pm

Years ago when M reg cars where 12 months old :lol: I had a petrol Mondeo and the clutch was going, I opted to trade it in as the whole one side of front suspension had to be removed to get at the clutch, got a new Escort TD and the day I picked it up the Mondeo clutch only just and I mean just made it to the dealers :shock: was a close call :oops:
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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby colley on Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:30 pm

There may be a slight judder in 2nd but that may be just the clutch :?
Clutch is only slipping when you put you foot down at the moment but seam OK if you drive it gentle

Only done 70k with full honda service history
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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby Drift on Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:34 pm

Sounds more like the clutch but that judder could be an issue with the DMF, what do they say on the Civic forum?
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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby colley on Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:42 pm

It is a very common problem on them as the civic forum has it own thread ( Register your clutch failure here) 25 pages long :shock:
People have had the clutch go with as little as 15k on a 12 month old car :shock:
I would say 80% of people on there had the fly wheel changed at the same time as the clutch but that was under warranty :wink: and a few have had to pay them selves ranging from £1400 to £2000 for the clutch and fly wheel :wink:
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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby Smithy501 on Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:47 pm

bloody hel mate i would just part ex it seems more touble than its worth,
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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby Postfinder on Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:50 pm

Hey Ste, I'll do a swop with ya,its got a good clutch :lol:
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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby meooo on Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:38 pm

We recently had one dropped on us as a part ex, salesman thought "easy fix, only a clutch"....it appears that the engine produces so much torque that the clutch gives up, apparantly the flywheels have been upgraded to help cope with it,



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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby Alfie on Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:21 pm

Very common fault on these get rid soonest :D
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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby woodwizzard on Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:26 am

If you are going to part ex you will only get offered trade price and the dealer will no-doubt pick up on the clutch slip and knock off another heap of money. If you are happy with the car, why not invest in it rather than lose on it. If the new parts are upgraded as meeoo has said then it shouldn't be a reaccuring problem.
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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby gregster on Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:31 am

Just a thought...but what do those warrantys cover that they advertise on TV that you can buy for your car...

Clutch probably wouldnt be covered as its a consumable as such, but it might cover the flywheel... :wink:
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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby snapper on Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:11 am

Take it to Liverpool, Manchester or Leicester one sunny friday evening. Park it up in some back lane near a scrappy, lock it up and walk away....... Ring insurance company on the monday, it should be down to the shell by then. Buy new car Tuesday.



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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby jontera on Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:37 am

I know that the earlier civics had a well known fault with input bearings, and after some pressure Honda extended their warranty on just that part..

have you checked to see if there has been any recalls regarding the DMF failing, there is a chance that it has been missed and with it being roughly only 5 years old it could still be covered by Honda..

Failing that, due to the costs involved, I'd part-ex..

just out of interest my wife has a 52plate civic with the failing input bearing, but just fell short of the warranty extension by 6months..just waiting for her to finish the clutch off (2 more months should see it die) before i do the bearing.
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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby colley on Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:07 pm

First of all thanks for your thoughts and advise :D
Well i have exhausted all possibilities and options :|
The best deal i have found for just the clutch is £480 at a local clutch and gearbox centre. They use Blue Point clutches anyone no anything about them :?:
If feed back is positive about the Blue Point then i think im going to chance it and have it done hopping that the flywheel is OK :wink:
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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby Gazeddy on Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:17 pm

blueprint parts are ok
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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby Drift on Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:29 pm

Ive used loads of blue print parts with no problems :wink:
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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby colley on Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:52 pm

Bit of an update :D

In the end i sent the Honda to the garage to have the clutch done and hoped the flywheel was OK :roll:
Well i have just had a phone call from the garage to say its all done and it was only the clutch :dance: :drink:
Did cost £480 but loads cheaper than i thought :dance:
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Re: None frontera Related Question, Your Opinions Please

Postby N1ova on Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:26 am

Glad it was just the clutch :D
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