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cooking a whole car...

Postby alex on Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:21 pm

Right I have offered to help paint a members car. We have paint booths at work for Fabrications, we prime paint, cook for 40mins at 80degrees, then gloss and re cook. Then the paint is touch dry, final cure in a few days.

Trouble is, I reckon 80degrees isnt good for a car.

So what would b safe?

I know various parts of the med see 40 degree heat, so 40 should be real safe. Would 50 be safe? 60 sounds a bit too far.
Also as my fabs are a bit more dense than a lil old fronty, the surface will get up to temp much quicker, so I wont need 80, 50 sounds about right to me.
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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby damrabbit on Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:27 pm

20 minutes a pound plus 30 minutes on gas mark 5 for medium rare i reckon :lol: :wink:
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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby 4x4 bobby on Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:28 pm

Hi mate i think this might help!!!!!
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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby Drift on Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:38 pm

Remember to lower tyre pressure or even remove them and I think a full tank of fuel is better than an empty tank (less vapours).
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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby gregster on Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:01 pm

HIya mate....

A lot depends on what paint you are using to do the car....waterbased, or 2k or synthetic all require different cooking temps and time...
and also paint technique has a bearing to...ie are you wet on wetting laquer onto base if metallic, or are you cooking the base then scotching up for clear...

Most body shops use a low bake oven which will cooks much lower temps than you are looking at...and if using waterbased base coats then airflow is more important to cure paint than the temperature...

Your paint should have a spec sheet available for it that will give recommendations as to painting temp and cure times with air dry or lowbake...
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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby Frenchfarmer on Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:37 pm

If you need something done quickly just ask a busy woman then get the f"k out of her way.
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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby alex on Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:52 pm

The paint is PU wet, isocyanate unleaded 2 pack. Yellow, we use it a lot and it will air dry, but takes ages. Hence the cooking. I reckon 40 degree would be safe. The painter uses it all day, might not be full auto spec, but our customer is picky about the finish.
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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby alex on Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:55 pm

Bobby, link didnt play vid, but the text says his booth runs up to 150F thats 65c :shock: Thats pretty warm for a whole car. Cant see heat being an issue then :D

Shame as its a great practical joke sending someone in at 80c, they get out quick
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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby gregster on Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:10 pm

40 degree will be fine mate...dont need any hotter than that, all the heat does is to help evaporate the solvent and stimulate the activator...

For the time and effort involved in doing the respray I must say I would be inclined to buy a couple of litres of half decent automotive 2k...even the commercial stuff lechler or alcea does is ok and cheap, and it will give a nice finish...2 litres + activ+ 2k thinner will cost about £50 if using a british standard colour...
As for curing time...if you paint in the morning and cook it at 30-40degrees for about an hour, you will be driving it that afternoon! Best bet is not leave outside in rain for a day though as heavy rain can still dent the paint slightly...but nothing that wouldnt mop out...
Get the right activator and thinner though...if you use a winter/air dry activ then paint will cure before it is fully flowed out and finish will end up orange peely...use a standard activator if cooking it and dont have the temp to hot in the booth when painting or dust coat will be dry before your heavy and wet coat...
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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby 128thependos on Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:25 pm

I was going to say that. :dance: :dance: :dance:
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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby Drift on Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:35 pm

Anyone wanna paint mine..............anything but YELLOW :shock:
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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby damrabbit on Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:28 pm

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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby gregster on Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:53 pm

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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby 4x4 bobby on Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:02 am

Comments on Betsy here please!!! viewtopic.php?f=115&t=56282

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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby andysd1 on Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:24 pm

just for you alex

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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby pot bellied pixie on Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:58 pm

Veni Vidi Lychee I came I saw I ate fruit
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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby Drift on Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:08 pm

I wont see him for another three weeks, but one to rib him on :lol:
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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby andysd1 on Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:05 am

go on ste, show the picture
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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby jellybaby on Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:40 pm

may well be worth a walk down the road alex giz a shout if ya need a hand
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Re: cooking a whole car...

Postby Drift on Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:16 pm

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