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We are being watched

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Re: We are being watched

Postby lastmadrich on Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:54 pm

i found this by same person and even the locals are moaning about her read the last statment i feel it straight to the point lol




© Crown copyright. All rights reserved. Ministry of Justice 100037819 2008
Allt y Badi
Reported in the Roads/highways category by Sally Clark at 12:43, Thursday 14 February
Sent to Denbighshire Council 1 minute later

I live at the bottom of a single-track, impassable mountain road, known as the Allt-y-Badi in Llangollen. Many years ago, this road was one of three that linked Llangollen with the Ceiriog Valley. It is now impassable by anything other than 4x4s equipped with winches, the road surface having been reduced to pot-holes, rubble and bedrock. The fact that it is used as an international "playground" (see relevant web-sites) by off-roading motorcycles and 4X4s is problem enough, but with the advent of sat-nav, my neighbour and I are now faced with an average of half a dozen saloon cars and anything up to three large lorries per week attempting to nav]gate this route (we have photographic evidence of said). Every vehicle that negotiates the "Badi" compounds the degeneration of the road surface and, as a direct result of this , the drainage channel that was constructed to prevent the cellar of my property being flooded is compromised. In addition, excess water washes eroded materials down the length of the lane into the neighbouring Pengwern Council Estate. In spite of road traffic signs informing them that this road is "unsuitable for motor vehicles" and also a "no through road", drivers persist in attempting the impossible. Whereas we have repeatedly asked that this road be downgraded to a restricted byway or bridle-path, Denbighshire County Council persists in it's assertion that it has every intention of restoring this road to the status of "unclassified highway." We have documentary evidence that DCC accepts responsibility for the repair and maintenance of this "unclassified highway" in spite of the fact that the cost of this would, obviously, be prohibitive and unacceptable to local council tax payers. For each stranded vehicle, (especially heavy goods vehicles), that becomes marooned on the "Badi" there ensues the necessity of my having to spend an hour or more following said vehicle as it reverses along the length of the lane to ensure that it does no damage to either the Grade II listed walls of Cherry Tree Farmhouse or the driveway of my neighbours property. In addition, I am constantly having to deal with stranded motorists knocking at my front door asking for assistance. I am a totally committed Christian and will help wherever I can, but enough is enough. This afternoon, a heavily-laden Jewsons lorry, (carrying up to a possible 20 ton load ) following sat-nav, tried to make it's way up Allt-y-Badi to Glyn Ceiriog, became "stuck", entered (illegally) my neighbours paddock, thereby causing extensive damage. The police were called and expressed their "concern" that,after two years, the problem remained unsolved. ( Incident Number J02 8310 - PC Andy Williams 1295 ) I am appalled by the attitude of Denbighshire County Council and have contacted the BBC Wales Newsdesk with regard tin this matter. I would appreciate your earliest response to my complaint. Sally Clark



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Posted by Sally Clark at 15:07, Thursday 13 March

A temporary road sign reading "No Through Road to Glynceiriog" has been put in situ, supported by sandbags, but vehicles are still following sat-nav and using the lane. A mini JCB spent a day scraping the surface of the lower part of the lane and took away 7 wagon-loads of debris. I regard both these measures as temporary and relatively ineffectual - within months the drainage problems will undoubtedly reoccur. This lane needs to be closed to all traffic.

Posted by Sally Clark at 07:53, Friday 18 April

Problem still not resolved though Denbighshire County Council do appear to be looking at alternative methods of prevention.

Posted by Nic at 21:18, Wednesday 28 May

Help! What are the new signs saying 'work to commence for 18 months"? We know nothing of this, and we live at the top! Any news gratefully received.

Posted by Timpo at 12:53, Wednesday 4 June

Glad to hear that DCC are to close the route for maintenance. And also are keen to keep it as a county road once repairs have taken place.

Posted by wildcard at 21:55, Thursday 5 June

Central government provides the money for highway repairs, never enough, but it's paid for by all motorists not just local residents. Glad to hear DCC are to use some of their budget on long over due maintenance of this highway.

Posted by Andy field at 18:52, Friday 11 July

I use this route to get from one valley to the other and saw you on HTV Wales, its a road and once we start shuting all roads we won't be able to travel any where. I'am happy for my road taxes been spent on road improvements, You sound like a nimby if you don't like living on a road don't buy a house on one, whats your problem do you want it repaired or shut for good ?
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Re: We are being watched

Postby lastmadrich on Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:57 pm

and something else to read about the two moaners
Website group Llangollen Greenlanes describes the road as a “classic lane” and even attacks a local resident for complaining about the off-road drivers destroying the peace.
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Re: We are being watched

Postby Road Hog on Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:52 pm

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Re: We are being watched

Postby lastmadrich on Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:32 pm

here is one link to a site i found it on
http://www.fixmystreet.com/?id=16044
i hope this helps.
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Re: We are being watched

Postby lastmadrich on Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:44 pm

and if you think that bad read this rubish too not what they were saying on the vid lol
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... -20513723/
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Re: We are being watched

Postby Road Hog on Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:26 pm

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Re: We are being watched

Postby lastmadrich on Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:26 am

no prob mate. :D
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