Mitsubishi shogun

[RatCav]

Only if you want to pay for the conversion

[horses45]

Even I won't be that silly with money lol, but really want a diesel shogun

[huggy]

ive now got a lwb 2.8 pajero with winter pack,awesome truck,full of gadgets and drives superb,pulls like a train,much better than a fronty in every way,only fault is its thirsty compaired to my 2.5 fronty,one good thing is you can use 4wheel high on tarmac without winding it up and you can switch on the fly,mine has full leather/electric seats,boot space is a little smaller than the fronty though due to the 7 seats.

[horses45]

Buggy you still the man lol so I gather you rate them ?

[huggy]

I love it,feels a lot more sure footed than the fronty,very well built,didnt think I would like driving an auto but its great,mine has only got 88000km on the clock and was owned by my dad since it was imported,never had any problems with it,all its ever had is glowplugs/2 new batteries and the egr was cleaned out once,its done a fair few trips to spain with a 22ft 1650kg caravan,if your ever up this way your more than welcome to take it for a spin

[horses45]

Thanks for that mucho appreciated

[horses45]

Have we all had that stage where your sick of looking for cars to buy and your not sure what to get ?, let me spell it out , I'm looking for something 4 wheel drive, that will tow a 21 foot caravan, get all my work bags in the boot and a bit newer than my fronty. I like my frontera but it's a 2003 and drives sweet but I'm looking for something a bit newer that im not going to struggle to find parts for.my head hurts as I looked at a Nissan x trail at work today but did not like it, grrrr finding a car is a pain I have about £8000 to find something I like but it's a mare trying to find something well rant over back to normality again for me or as close as I can get

[fogman]

have you considered the bigger brother of the x trail the pathfinder ? ive had 1 for 18 months now and i love it to bits, 2.5 diesel that pulls like a train, i average 28/30 to the gallon which aint much less than the vectra i owned before, they have all the toys if you get the right model - leather sat nav reversing camera, electric seats and 7 seats ( 05 models onwards i think ) etc, massive load space with the rear seats folded down, spares wont be cheap but nor will they be for other equivalent 4x4s. they feel proper chunky and well made and for 8k i reckon you could get an 07 with history and lowish mileage if you look around

even you wont break 1 of them rob lol

[hipo1024]

Sounds like you and me rob are in the same boat Here my thread if it gives you any food for thought? about the same budget as me, you want a diesel like me too. Ive also spent hours (google had me up until 7am last night...again....opps!) looking into things. I want new, comfy, lots of toys, leather/heated everything, reliable and economic - aren't we all eh!

viewtopic.php?f=45&t=58838

[huggy]

my pajero is a 96 but is in much better condition than any b series frontys ive seen about,if you want a later model then there a different toy,my dad has just bought a 2005 elegance shogun model,at first he didn't like it because it just doesn't feel like or drive like his older model,he says it drives like a car but now hes got use the change he loves it,its got stability control/traction control/trip tronic box and best of all a 3.2 diesel lump that pulls like a train and is better on fuel than the 2.8,boot space is also good as the rear seats fold under the floor,so big boot when needed and also 7 seats when needed,my next upgrade will defo be a later model shogun,but I intend on getting what I can out of my pajero like I did with my old 2.5 fronty

[huggy]

[horses45]

Dan it's doing my head in trying to find something that ticks all the boxes, I have no idea what models and what cars I want lol, my head hurts with looking

[hipo1024]

The mitsubishi outlander is too car like for me, still want the bulk of a 'proper' 4x4

And yeah tell me about it rob! I'm 75% going to get a 2005 or early 2006 (purely for tax reasons as after I think May 2006 the tax goes upto £500 a year from £285) jeep grand cherokee crd limited. Plenty of clean examples around with sensible milage. It has a Mercedes 3litre v6 diesel engine and auto gearbox, limited slip diffs all round, clever traction control that has the ability to potentially send all the engines power to just one wheel (if you got really stuck for example). Has loads of toys like duel zone climate control, heated leather seats, some have built in satnav, parking sensors electric folding mirrors, etc. Only draw back is that the styling isn't as nice as a land cruiser of the same age, but you get alot more bang for your buck because you can get a nice jeep for around £5k giving left over cash for mods

But everyones tastes are different, but that's my 2 cents

[horses45]

Yep that's my problem finding a tow car thats 75% 4x4 and I like ? ?, but read up put the Kia sore to as a good tow car but I'm not sure lol. With so many to choose from my head hurts looking but will have a look at the outlander

[RatCav]

Dare I say it:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p

[horses45]

RatCav for shame looking at the dark side but got to admit I have as well , but it is finding something that ticks the boxes. I do like the look of the shoguns but again I have heard both good and bad about them so I'm no further forward lol. This car hunting is hard

[RatCav]

I really like the Disco IV's. I think they look nice and have ALL the toys. The air suspension works really well, and makes trailer hitching a doddle. A couple of friends of mine have them and I was relieved that LR actually got their heads out of their asses and developed something which actually works .. and works well. I would have a Disco IV any day.

[badsykes]

RatCav: i suppose the parts for Disco IV are kinda expensive ?