well been there about 15 time in the space of 2 month lol have tryed every hill there and got my self stuck alot

the 3rd i think would be better as its closest lol i met up with alot of the boys off that scottish club there all good guys sept one.. very smug in his 110 saying the fonty could not do most off the hills there but i showed him lol

i can speak to andy if you want try get a group deal say £12 a head. all was worth a try and will get him to get all his recovery truck ready as they will toe you out if need be
