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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby robbie on Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:23 pm

Oh. Oil going up. Does it smell of diesel? ?
Could be injector O rings
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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby V8Rik on Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:42 pm

Just been out and done a sniff test Robbie, or sticking the dip stick up my nose by accident. There is a whiff of diesel even to this old nose.

If it is the copper washers does the head face need re-cutting or can I simply drag the old ones out and after a good clean up.....drop the new ones in. ??

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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby robbie on Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:54 pm

I would think just a good clean and put back
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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby V8Rik on Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:04 pm

Just found a "how to remove 2.2 DTI injectors" guide on the net......strip and remove the inlet manifold then the complete camshaft including the vacuum pump.

If this is the case and an injector or seal has gone....i'm washing my hands of it and it's off on eBay as a non runner or it's off down the scrappies. :thumbdown:

In nearly sixty years on this planet i've owned two Vauxhalls previous to this thing. First was a new 3.0 GSI Carlton, second was a new 3.0 Omega Elite. Both of these were brilliant cars in their own very diffent ways, I put monster miles on both of them and apart from the normal comsumables nothing, absolutely nothing went wrong with either of them......shame the same can't be said for this thing. 40k on the clock, full VX service history with a folder full of bills (there's a surprise) and yet it can't even manage 300 miles in three weeks without mechanically and electically dropping to bits.

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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby robbie on Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:08 pm

Yer know what you mean bud, I do all my own work as couldn't afford to keep my fronteras on the road otherwise
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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby V8Rik on Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:18 pm

The wife's completely hacked off with it and just wants rid.....absolutely no confidence in it what so ever. As for risking a drive to Bulgaria in it, forget it.

A mate and his girlfriend turned up yesterday in his bright white two year old Range Rover.....then fell about laughing at the green skip parked round the back, or Frontera if you prefer.If it's not a cheap quick fix it's gone, simple as. :thumbdown:
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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby robbie on Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:03 pm

Best of luck what ever way you go. Just out of interest how far south are you
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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby V8Rik on Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:21 pm

Scunthorpe....middle of nowhere. ;)
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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby robbie on Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:24 pm

Still a northerner then lol. And not that far south
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2.0 1997 the gold1.
chrome bull bar to be fitted along with tinted upper and lower rear light clusters, 255x75x15 on 5spoke early A alloys
2.0 1997 green1.
wrap round bull bars, side steps, 31x10.5x15 on trooper alloys
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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby V8Rik on Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:26 pm

Sort of in the middle if you like....but near enough to Yorkshire so I don't feel too homesick. :)
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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby robbie on Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:32 pm

Cool. Am just a tad further northelp of Newcastle.
Keep us informed of what you decide.
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2.0 1997 the gold1.
chrome bull bar to be fitted along with tinted upper and lower rear light clusters, 255x75x15 on 5spoke early A alloys
2.0 1997 green1.
wrap round bull bars, side steps, 31x10.5x15 on trooper alloys
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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby V8Rik on Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:58 pm

Keep an eye on here LOL. :hang:
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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby robbie on Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:03 pm

I will if it's cheap enough haha
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2.0 1997 the gold1.
chrome bull bar to be fitted along with tinted upper and lower rear light clusters, 255x75x15 on 5spoke early A alloys
2.0 1997 green1.
wrap round bull bars, side steps, 31x10.5x15 on trooper alloys
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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby V8Rik on Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:18 pm

The dash thing, well they all do that, don't they.....

As for the pinking misfiring smoke screen laying POS under the bonnet. ...... we'll find out this week what's given up playing and how many pennies it's going to cost. If that exceeds how much it's worth then it's time to bin it.
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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby robbie on Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:23 pm

Here hoping it won't cost you a small fortune
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2.0 1997 the gold1.
chrome bull bar to be fitted along with tinted upper and lower rear light clusters, 255x75x15 on 5spoke early A alloys
2.0 1997 green1.
wrap round bull bars, side steps, 31x10.5x15 on trooper alloys
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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby V8Rik on Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:03 pm

See what they find.....non common rail so not many sensors to check, or give the lap top much to go on.
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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby V8Rik on Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:40 pm

Chugged and coughed it's way to my mates garage today. The tame mechanics were uber surprised at the condition of it, it's immaculate.

Sit and wait for the phone call tomorrow sometime revealing what's occured with it.......
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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby robbie on Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:21 pm

At least you got it there under its own steam, all I can think of is the seals
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2.0 1997 the gold1.
chrome bull bar to be fitted along with tinted upper and lower rear light clusters, 255x75x15 on 5spoke early A alloys
2.0 1997 green1.
wrap round bull bars, side steps, 31x10.5x15 on trooper alloys
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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby V8Rik on Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:02 pm

Good news, it's fixed.

He plugged his computer into it, no mechanical faults, it did pick up a catastrophic vacuum failure even though all the pipes have been replaced.

He won't tell me what it was at the moment, I have to pick it up in the morning and run it around for a few days to see if the fault re-appears. Very odd indeed, even his dad wouldn't tell me what's gone on.
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Re: Frontera 2.2 dti coughing and smoking.

Postby stretch on Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:19 pm

Knew it would be vac problem. Probably forgot a pipe lol. Glad it's sorted.
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