Need abit of info please guys

[Drift]

All the updated dash ones have drivers airbags, passenger bag I think where optional, and all later ones have leccy windows.

[PaulS]

leather or aircon i dont car about that just want air bags a 4 el windows

4x el windows is quite easy upgrade - similiar to one on cav, some later models MAY have el windows fitted allround, not sure here tho

[PaulS]

All the updated dash ones have drivers airbags, passenger bag I think where optional, and all later ones have leccy windows.

later ones with el windows do you mean all mini-facelift post N reg ones? and e/w all round or only fronts?

[Drift]

My 2.8 is a base model, no sun roof air con ect, but it still has leccy windows all round, except the one that doesnt work in the rear as I keep forgetting about it

[cav]

Right then it looks like the Frontera i want will be and have ......
Late A model
Have bull bars
Runner board's or what ever they are called lol
Drivers airbags
El windows
Easy to work on engine
And most of all good MPG or at least the same MPG as a Vectra V6

[PaulS]

So to me looks lie mini facelift post N reg 2.8 LWB

[Drift]

So to me looks lie mini facelift post N reg 2.8 LWB

Nope 2.8's all have the older dash

How much are you looking at spending ish, if you dont mind me asking, they guys will look out for one then

[cav]

How much are you looking at spending ish, if you dont mind me asking, they guys will look out for one then

Not too sure just yet. Im just trying to work out what sort i want first lol
I think i will be looking to buy one after my wedding in the summer. Unless i can find a very cheap one that needs some work in the mean time

[cav]

Nope 2.8's all have the older dash

So what engine should i be looking for ?
I like the thought of the 2.2 16v as i sort of know that engine but i bet its crap on fuel

[Drift]

2.2 petrol is around 28mpg I think, some will correct me if Im wrong
Or you could get the 2.5 tds but make sure its a well looked after one

[cav]

Yeah i was reading somthing about the 2.5 today on the site saying the 2.5 and 2.8 is sort of the same BUT the 2.5 has more wiring around the engine eg more things to go wrong and the 2.8 hasnt and was basically bomb proof.
I would like the td but i know nothing about them, so if anything went wrong i wouldnt know what to do or where to start

[Trugga]

...I would like the td but i know nothing about them, so if anything went wrong i wouldnt know what to do or where to start

With the exception of a Daihatsu Fourtrack, my Frontera was the first diesel I've owned and maintained.

After 5 years of ownership, I took on an engine transplant !!!

You'll learn and with lots of help available through FOG, you'll be able to tackle most jobs.

Lawrence

[cav]

Thats true. I started out on a 1.6 8v then worked my way all the way up the cavaliers and vectras to my V6 and done all the work on my own with the help from my best pal. Weve done about 6 engine swaps too. It was only the other month we put a f23 gear box into my V6 and the engine had to come out for that and that was the first time we have worked on a V6.

[markta]

cav i'd buy the 2.8 0r the 2.3
2.3 is sluggish but with a decent tool kit & all the help from fog,most of it is fixable yourself & if you can work on a v6 you will be able to work on one of them as there not so complex,i've read up on the 2.5 too & wouldnt buy one to complex......what you gotta think is a fronty isnt a speed machine anyhow & i gotta say i used to own a 2.8 trooper only thing i miss against my 2.3 fronty is the accelaration other than that nothing coz frontys like troopers aint really made for speed.

mind saying all that if the 2.2 petrol will do 28mpg as drift says,then thats as good or better than a 2.3 td,think the 2.8 can do upto 40mpg

[Drift]

Most 2.8's avarage around the 30mpg mark

[PaulS]

But again we cant go for 2.8 as cav wants later dash with airbag

[cav]

I dont know what engine to buy
I dont care about the speed anymore i just want a big truck to run me and the family around in so only need it to give a good mpg realy.

[PaulS]

Well, so I believe we have got only 2 options - 2.5TD and 2.2 Petrol.. Petrol will give you lower mpg, but its quiet, easier to work with (very similiar to x20xev from cavs / calibra / vectra / omega) and easy to work with. And at some point can be LPG-ed.

Transglobe as you will get many toys and thats you

Any other ideas guys?

[cav]

Well, so I believe we have got only 2 options - 2.5TD and 2.2 Petrol.. Petrol will give you lower mpg, but its quiet, easier to work with (very similiar to x20xev from cavs / calibra / vectra / omega) and easy to work with. And at some point can be LPG-ed.

Transglobe as you will get many toys and thats you

Any other ideas guys?

now we are getting there only 2 engines to pick from ( please dont anyone say what about the 9.7 V20 lol )
The 2.2 sounds good as i sort of know that engine, But whats the mpg like compared to the 2.5 td ?
And can i just ask whats a Transglobe Paul ?

[markta]

sorry cav,drift corrected me a 2.8 does approx 30 mpg,so i think with the price of diesel at the moment (its not gonna get any better) i would be swayed to the 2.2 petrol as pauls_cav said you can always convert to lpg at a latter date or even better buy one all ready done