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DTI 3 FOG 1

Postby stretch on Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:47 pm

Today was day 4 of the 'get the friggin dti running properly under load with no air in fuel challenge'. Bobbinsjob anmd Anytats turned up and due to previous attempts to get it running we decided we would spanner until 4 and if it wasn't going by then we would give up and I would sell it. Changed the metal injector pipes, dropped the tank and replaced the guard also replaced the sender unit in the tank, stripped out the remaining VX pipes until there was no original fuel pipes left and also changed the filter housing and put in a new filter. By one we had finished nearly all the jobs and took a brief recess for lunch.

After lunch tightening and odd jobs were done, the next thing was priming. This time we primed it by the compressor in fuel filler method, we managed to get fuel up to the pump but after a few minutes out hearts sank as there was loads of air in it and it seemed we still had the same issue as the other days and as soon as we turned the compressor off all the fuel ran back to the tank again. Next we decided we would conjour up something to allow us to do it via the priming port which meant pushing down that all important shroder value. After lots of head scratching, shrugging of shoulders and looking into the sky for inspiration we came up with a priming bulb, some wire sheathing and a childs plastic arrow toy (don't ask). This worked reasonably well but we moved onto priming port tool MKII which consisted of a chopped and ground down injector pipe some blue electrical tape (has to be blue or it wouldn't work) some small fuel hose and a jubilee clip. When using this version after a short while we noticed bubbles we only on the exit side of the bulb which went into a jerry can and the fuel lines in the engine bay were bubble free. Next the moment of truth, switched the compressor off and hey presto the fuel stayed in the pipes :dance: I looked at Ian thinking 'can it really be true??' he responded with a cheaky grin :D We let her tick over for a bit then went on the maiden run, Andy drove the recovery car and Ian armed himself with a 17mm spanner. Like a rigged scene from Top Gear where they seem to make challenges by the split second I looked at my watch and it was 2 minutes to 4!

Progress was better than many times before because this time we actually made it all the way out of the driveway. Up the road we went and approached the farm track where it had cut out every time before due to using all the fuel it had left in the system, 'it's going to cut out, it's going to cut out' I thought but NO past we went and i'm i'm sure I let out a little "WOO HOO! or YEAH HA!" drove a little further and turned round and made it back home without issue. We switched the engine off and the fuel stayed where it was and started straight away. I started it numerous times and it seems to be ok. I will take it out for a run at some point to see.

We ended the day with an ice bucket challenge so thanks Andy for chucking that over me :twisted:

I'd like to thank Ian Andy and Rob for all their help who even after multiple visits remained undeterred and in true FOG spirit were not going to leave a man behind. Thanks to Gemma, Maria & Lisa for keeping us fed and watered and being true fog wenches. Thanks to Bobby for the parts and everyone who gave me advice/helped on this.

I am now going outside to start it up and will try to contain my self from clapping and giggling like a school girl.
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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

Postby 4x4 bobby on Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:53 pm

Come on we need to know Brian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :dance: :thumbup: :thumbdown: :?:
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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

Postby stretch on Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:55 pm

giggling and clapping was involved i'm saying nothing more.
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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

Postby 4x4 bobby on Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:58 pm

Yo da man!!!!!!!!!! And the rest of the lads!!!! :thumbup:
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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

Postby andytats on Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:20 pm

It's what FOG is all about mate helping each other out. :thumbup: & yes the redneck militia will never leave one behind
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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

Postby 2much on Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:30 pm

:party: :party: :party:

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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

Postby Loneranger on Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:22 pm

Well done guys.. :party:
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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

Postby bobbinsjob on Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:42 pm

Honestly I'm so chuffed for you Brian. That truck was not going to beat us and fingers crossed it will be all ok in the morning. I've actually learned a lot about the dti fuel system during this saga and now feel confident of fixing other trucks with the same problem. I'm also going to try to manufacture a proper priming tool. Thanks for the lunch and coffees and see you soon buddy
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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

Postby stretch on Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:47 am

Hi mate, no the DTI doesn't have a lift/priming pump so any time the fuel system is disturbed ie changing the fuel filter it must be primed/bled as without doing so the pump can be dry and you'll end up killing it.
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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

Postby 4x4 bobby on Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:26 am

How's it gone this morning Brian? Has it retained pressure and started?????????? :D :thumbup:
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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

Postby stretch on Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:29 am

yes and yes mate and no air bubbles :dance:
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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

Postby 4x4 bobby on Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:33 pm

I would say that's a positive fix then!!!! :thumbup:
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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

Postby andytats on Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:39 pm

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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

Postby dave1966 on Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:21 pm

Well done guys. :thumbup: :clap:
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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

Postby mickh on Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:22 pm

You have to take your hat off to these two renegades, Andytats and Bobbins. They show up at every spanner party for miles around and are doggedly persistent that they will not be beaten. Well done guys.
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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

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Re: DTI 3 FOG 1

Postby bobbinsjob on Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:38 am

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