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Who are the experts ??

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Who are the experts ??

Postby Spike on Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:44 pm

I have possibly found a donor motor..

A "W" reg 2.2DTi with an AUTO box,

and Mine a "X" reg 2.2 petrol...

How much difficulty would it be to put the diesel engine into my petrol Frontera?

Would the exisiting clutch fit straight in ?

Any local experts in Ayrshire area, ( I am about 5 miles from the Drumclog course..)

but have no premises to do this change over...

This would also leave a full LWB Frontera for spares ............
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Re: Who are the experts ??

Postby gregster on Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:48 pm

Surely it would be easier to nick the bits off your car to fix the donor vehicle...but then you didnt say what was wrong with the donor... :wink:
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Re: Who are the experts ??

Postby Spike on Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:52 pm

Sorry I should have said my car is a SWB and the doner vehicle is a LWB...

PS the donor car has an autobox problem....

I prefer the SWB.... :twisted:
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Re: Who are the experts ??

Postby Dupe on Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:19 pm

The only fronty i no of that's not interchangeable (big word phew) is the 2.0Lt petrol.so the engine should fit but :!: you will have to change mostly everything.
if i were you i would change the auto box for the manual. but that's just my opinion.
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Re: Who are the experts ??

Postby Road Hog on Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:22 pm

Can of worms comes to mind.......

You will need a Dual Mass Flywheel & clutch kit for the Dti
You may need a different bell housing to get the clutch operating arm into the right relative position,due to the above
Your gear ratio`s & differential ratios will not be ideally matched to the engine characteristics

Aside from the engine you will need to transfer.........

Fuel tank plus the pipework & filter
The exhaust system ..(LWB & SWB are not directly interchangeable)
The ECU
The complete wiring loom (to accommodate Fuel heater,glow plugs,fuel pump electronics,etc )
The vacuam pipes & associated solonoids
The radiator
The instrument pod (different function lamps)
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Re: Who are the experts ??

Postby Spike on Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:26 pm

Sounds like I should just look for another 2.2 petrol engine...

I know where there is a 2000 LWB 2.2DTi with a siezed autobox if anyones interested then...
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Re: Who are the experts ??

Postby Road Hog on Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:36 pm

Sorry bud,while all things are possible it would be a serious amount of work,have you looked into using an Omega bottom end & retaining your top end ??
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Re: Who are the experts ??

Postby Spike on Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:41 pm

I am open to any options, just don't want to have to spend a fortune getting it running........ :evil:
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Re: Who are the experts ??

Postby Road Hog on Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:27 pm

What is wrong with its existing engine ??
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Re: Who are the experts ??

Postby Spike on Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:09 am

puffing a lot of smoke.....

I think I will need to check this out more thoroughly...

Head off , get it checked..

While its off check the piston's for movement...

There was a rattle at 2500 revs, and I was told it was a wee end !...but I don.t know exactly yet...

Didn't want to pay £300 to do the head then end up doing work to bottom end as well...and spending about a grand all in..
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Re: Who are the experts ??

Postby Road Hog on Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:10 am

One at a time,what colour smoke & when does it do it.....
Cold start
Hot start
Acceleration
Even load
Over run

If it smokes when cold does it improve when hotter,etc
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Re: Who are the experts ??

Postby Spike on Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:38 pm

One at a time,what colour smoke & when does it do it.....if I drive about 500yds , the smoke dissappears

Cold start WHITE
Hot start WHITE
Acceleration WHITE
Even load WHITE
Over run BLACK

.....If revved above 3000 revs, you can see black smoke, white smoke seems to disappear..warmer it gets


Think I have it right... Also seems gutless for a 2.2 i..so I don't know if all above is relative

I had a 2.0i (1992 model, which was quite quick)
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Re: Who are the experts ??

Postby Road Hog on Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:24 pm

White is water vapour,that is normal at start up (particularly cold)on a petrol engine

Black smoke on over run is oil being drawn down the valve guides,indicating the are becoming worn.
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Re: Who are the experts ??

Postby Spike on Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:29 pm

The white smoke clouds out the back for a long while...

I will strip the head off the engine and work from there...get it sent away for full rework job..

I will check piston's if there is any play...etc

I did a compression check and all cylinders were in the region of 220....

Engine sounds sweet enough when ticking over...

So I reckon I better start somewhere...... :o
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