Anybody got access to the TIS system??

[Wilberforce]

Well, I finally made it back from foreign parts to my place yesterday for the first time in a fortnight (trucking from a different depot and visiting friends, hehe) and got my car into the local truck workshop for my much anticipated steam clean...
Nice blokey, went round and jetted the paintwork for me, then took the steamer to my engine bay and gearbox to clean all the crud off it. Not bad for a tenner, i thought

The bad news though is that this has confirmed my suspicions about where the oil's coming from, and it's the gasket between upper oil pan and the engine block. Cue some nasty words when I realised, heh...
So, knowing that removing the sump requires dropping the front diff, and probably lots of swearing and getting oily, I've decided it's a bit much for me and the father to do, lacking a ramp, or engine hoist, etc.

What I want to know is, what does the TIS system reckon for labour on that job for a 2.8?? Parts I can phone around for tomorrow, but I'd like if possible a reasonable idea of what the labour charge'd be before committing myself.

Cheers,
Jim

[Krusher]

Hi mate

I have a TIS disc but dont have it to hand at the mo but as soon as I lay my hands on it I will let you know

[Wilberforce]

Doody, cheers Krusher...
Not really sure I want to know, lol.. However I have visions of a duff engine if I try that meself

Jim

[Drift]

If Ive read this correct to remove and replace the complete upper and lower oil pan it give 2.9 hours

[Wilberforce]

Thats... well, not too bad, actually. Nowhere near as bad as I was expecting, at anyrate.

With that and the parts - gonnae have to drain the oil so may as well change that and fit a new filter too, I should be able to cope with that.

Cheers Ste (and Lawrence via PM, hehe )

Jim

[Drift]

You shouldnt need to drop the diff either as there is plenty of room from what I can see.

[Drift]

I better warn you to, the lower pan will be a bugger to separate, you will swear its welded on, try not to bend it.

[Wilberforce]

Fair enough... Yet another reason to entrust to somebody else then.

Only going on what the Bumper Book of Jokes (Haynes) was saying, plus not knowing about that particular job myself. Amazingly on that subject, they do elaborate on the refit process, rather than just using the catch-all "refitting is the reverse of removal"

[Drift]

Give the sealant a good 12 hours to cure before filling it.

Have you tried Forte seal rejuvenater ? Ive used it a few years ago, stopped a leak for me, been fine ever since, also banged a similar product in my rear diff to stop a pinion oil leak, done a 1000 miles and no leak as yet.

[Wilberforce]

I'm not sure seal rejuvenator'd be up to it, to be honest..
It's a reasonably healthy leak I've got going on, so may as well bite the bullet for peace of mind, etc etc...

[Wilberforce]

Gold stars to Lawrence & Ste

Just phoned my local Vx dealer out of curiosity and would you believe, their system says 3.2 hours. Well, eventually it did, after we'd convinced it that yes, you *can* have a 2.8 in an M-reg vehicle, heh.

Total price from them for both gaskets, seals, oil, filter, labour and Mr Darling's cut was £380 give or take a few pence. Oh, and they'll even sort me for getting to and from work too

So what do ye reckon then fellas?? Vx are never the cheapest in the world, but given the job, and the fact that it's GM parts and a fixed price, I'm partly tempted.

[ken mercer]

hope that includes oil, filter, and gasket, still over 100 quid an hour, i did my own on my truck whitch is same as 2.8 fronty, trolley jack, 2 axle stands, 100euro for gasket, oil, and filter, and 4 hours of dirty work, its not complicated, cheers ken. get back to me when you have the time over my questions, but get yourself sorted first

[john (smifffy)]

i might be tempted if i had the spare cash as its a fixed price and it was raining

but in nice weather and a cash shortage would do it myself


local vx & autodata both give in the region of 3 hrs