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Postby troy on Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:08 pm

Can anyone tell me if theres a company that still make cats for the 2.8. as i can only find cats to fit the 2.3 2.5 2.2 diesels but no one seems to list the 2.8. The only alternative seems to be finding a simular sized cat and welding it in. Any ideas.
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Re: cats

Postby Drift on Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:35 pm

Forget about it and weld in a straight through piece of pipe, its not actually a catalytic converter on the 2.8 its a particulate filter, so if your engine is in good condition you wont have any problems with the MOT.
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Re: cats

Postby barryc28 on Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:41 pm

cat not avaialable by timax or bosal the two largest aftermarket makers but like drift says you will have no problem at mot time without it as the fitment of cats to diesels is not an mot requirement ( I works as a tester) and the emission test for diesels is only a measure of smoke levels and not CO, Hydrocarbons and Lambda as in a petrol engine so best think and cheapest option is to remove it, might even gain a few ponies
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Re: cats

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Re: cats

Postby barryc28 on Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:43 pm

yes and yes

The emmision limits are the same for all diesels regardless of age (except for pre 1960)

After 6 free accelerations,
the mean of the last 3 smoke levels is:

a. for a non-turbocharged engine, more than 2.50m-1

b. for turbocharged engines more than 3.00m -1

and no requirememnt for pussy cat or particle filter to be fitted :party:
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Re: cats

Postby bobbinsjob on Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:09 am

me likes, me likes. Cheers Barry :dance:
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Re: cats

Postby alex on Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:39 am

Took a cutter to mine last night, no backing out its cat free from now on.
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Re: cats

Postby Roo on Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:13 pm

Hi
When I seen the subject : Cats, I thought it was going to be the furry, 4 legged type :lol: :lol: and its clearly not that :oops:
So may one ask please :oops: .... What is a cats please?.... and noooo I'm not blonde, just having a 'roo moment here :lol:

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Re: cats

Postby alex on Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:21 pm

:lol: Just because its you Roo, catalytic converter in the exhaust pipe. Expensive nasty pointless things that dont work in the UK.
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Postby bobbinsjob on Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:05 pm

Do you get any increase in power when de-catted Alex
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Re: cats

Postby alex on Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:59 pm

Dunno yet, but as soon as I know I'll let you know.
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Re: cats

Postby Drift on Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:03 pm

Been planning mine for a while, I have the pipe to fit, just got to get the balls to cut the cat out and clamp the other bit in :?
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grow a pair, come on man :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: cats

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Re: cats

Postby nigelbread on Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:48 pm

2.4 and 3.2 petrol engines running on LPG can I remove cats? Legally!
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Re: cats

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Re: cats

Postby andysd1 on Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:24 pm

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Re: cats

Postby alex on Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:02 am

Roo,
They are used to control emissions and are now a legal requirement on all uk cars.

Unfortunatley when the gov were deciding how to control emissions they could either buy into the German testing program with a sparkplug in the exhaust to reburn the gas or follow the U.S. cat system. As were too tight to do our own testing we bought U.S. research and went cat.

The US research was done in a nice hot desert where cats work nice. Here in the UK it can take half an hour for one to warm up to the point it does anything and some days it wont ever warm up.
For us, because its a brittle honeycomb its a nuisance that can fracture and break up, restricting airflow and performance.
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Re: cats

Postby Roo on Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:24 pm

Does that mean then they are not as accurate, if they can take up to half an hour to get warm, so does that mean, that a vehicle could pass or fail its MOT say, if they haven't heated up correctly? The reason why I ask is because it would take me 15 mins to the MOT Test Centre..
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