Hiya Neal. All the members in the S.W are quite far apart and we have to travel a fair way to find anywhere legal to offroad. Travelling and finding the time isn't an issue but the fuel costs can be. Will get crimbo season out the way and see what the new year brings and maybe try and arrange a day on the plains or something. Need more daylight hours to have a nice long day. John (meeoo) will chip in when on next, I don't know if he still frequents the surf forum, but they play on the plains from time to time and know the area well, so may pay to hitch up with them at some point.