G.L.A.S.S and C.R.AG ?

[Drift]

What are the differences between the two?
I have seen this asked before on other forums but the question is never quite answered as it always seems to fall into a "Im better than you are" by different members, and as a consiquence the thread , rightly so , gets deleted.
I meant to asked your views as a GLASS member at he weekend Lawrence, but hey ho the days lanning beat the subject to the ground
Any views wecome.
Ste 3000000000and 3

[Trugga]

A good question Ste.

I'll have a think and try to put forward some of my thoughts a little later.

Lawrence

[Apache-Andy]

got a link to CRAG? tried googling but to no avail

[Trugga]

My appologies - I had forgotten about this thread. I'll try and remember to post something this evening.

In the meantime:

GLASS - Green Lane Association (www.glass-uk.org)
The Green Lane Association is a national user group, dedicated to researching and protecting the UK's unique heritage of ancient vehicular rights of way and promoting sensible driving in the countryside."

CRAG - Countryside Recreational Access Group (www.crag-uk.org)
"CRAG seeks to develop close partnerships with highways authorities to assist them in managing their networks and to provide voluntary support in updating records, repairing routes and undertaking general maintenance."


Lawrence

[Drift]

Cheers Lawrence
Ste

[Trugga]

In my oppinion...

GLASS has a good reputation, going back for a number of years (late 90's) where it was formed out of GLOW that was there previously. GLASS has a lot of experience and knowledge and through a quaterly magazine, website and a members discussion forum, share that information freely.

As a member of GLASS, I have received answers to questions I've posted on the members discussion forum, had an article included in the quartarly magazine and visited my local groups pub meet. I've also been laning with another regional group through another member.

In my experience, GLASS members are a good bunch of people, with a relaxed atitude but they do enjoy their lanining and lane clearing activities.

Now then, CRAG, and bear in mind this is my perception. CRAG was formed following an issue in GLASS (the details of which I won't pretend to understand). The members of CRAG that I have spoken with are more "extreme" (extreme is too harsh a word though), in that they are quite vocal and keen to get the name in the public (or at least 4x4) eye.

CRAG appear to be quite proactive in re-establishing their individual relationships they had with local councils as GLASS members, and have a number of lane maintenance projects on the go.

To summarise (in my oppinion)
GLASS: Established, Respected, Passive
CRAG: New, Energetic, Proactive

Both groups hold local meetings, have similar joining fees, web discussion forum and an on-line lane database.

To find out more, might I suggest you visit their websites listed above, and visit a local meeting of each that is active in your area - you should then have enough information as to which you might like to join.

Lawrence

[Drift]

Well Ive desided to join CRAG .
What made me deside this was the view that CRAG took into account the wide varity of countryside users, though this group does seem to be mostly 4x4 orientated it still can use the wider aspects to forge links with the whole of the countryside user groups.

I still play a semi active part with the Mountaineering club that I have been a member of for the last 12 years and this ties in nicley with that.

In all fairness the mountaineering club as it used to be changed the mountaineering club aspect part of its name to mountain activities.

Never has the club ever had any problems with 4x4 to my knowledge, just a minor anoyance a few weeks ago where a 4x4 driver was hitting the top off a rock he couldnt get over, with a sledgehammer on a GL right next to the hut where we where having a stag party, the guy how saw this thought best not to mention it till the morning
Ste.

[Red Oktober]

Hi ste
does it cost anything to join

[Drift]

Hi ste
does it cost anything to join

Yes I think both crag and GLASS are about the same £25 anualy.
but you get access to the wayfinder site that give up to date info on the green lanes status, though you still need to check with local ROWO to be possitive.
Ste

[Red Oktober]

thanks buddy

[Drift]

No probs
Ste