Offroad Venues-Just a suggestion

[BUMPTJ]

Hi, I've been reading the posts about get togethers etc Which sounds like it should be fun, but there doesn't seem to be any information on the site about places where you can go greenlaning or pay and play. What about setting up a forum listing these so you know whats available to you locally or countrywide. I'm dying to go and have a play but as a newbie I just don't know where to start looking. Also if there is an easy reference list then I'm sure we can get more get togethers organised.

[Drift]

I think thats a good
Think I mentioned there is a place in Southport.
Ste

[BUMPTJ]

I would try an give it a go. need help on the greenlaning though don't know what to look for on the OS maps

[I Live For FOG]

looks like you have your own forum

[BUMPTJ]

WOW THAT WAS QUICK!!! Hopefully I can fill it full of good stuff.

[grimley.frontera]

Hi all

I have found this site on the interweb..

Some of you may already know it, but it looks like a good place to start for Off Road events etc.

http://www.4x4web.co.uk/offrd.html

You could always paste relevant links here...

There's also Wild Tracks in Newmarket...

http://www.wildtracksltd.co.uk

They do Pay & Plays, just watch out for the big puddle and the clay silt in the rad !!

They do have onsite catering and loos, and a jetwash at £1 for about 7-10 mins use..

Hope that helps...

Chris.

As for Green Lanes.. I'm at a loss.. I don't even know HOW to read an OS map correctly

[Trugga]

Here's another Pay & Play site website: http://www.4x4funday.co.uk/offrd.html

As for Green Lanes, that's a whole different kettle of fish !!!

DO NOT CONFUSE PAY & PLAY SITES WITH GREEN LANES.

Lawrence

[Drift]

Hi, Steve.
The Green Lanes are there for all to see on any OS map.
But recently there have been some big and negative changes to the classifaction of some of the roads so some OS maps could be out of date.
Some unmetaled lanes that where legal to drive before may have been down graded so they are now access only or non motorised vehicals.
If you where to join GLASS or CRAG they could help in telling you the situation of lanes in your area or even the local council , though some are more helpful than others.
If you subscibe to this site there is a wealth of info there too.
http://www.offroadroutes.net/
Ste

[Trugga]

Maybe there should also bee a Green Lane thread/topic

Rough Guide Only:

On the Ordnance Survey map 1:50,000 series

+++++++ (red crosses) designates BOAT's (Byeways Open to All Traffic)
o o o o o o (red dots) designates ORPA's (Other Routes with Public Access)

These are the ONLY non surfaced routes that may be driven by a Motorised Passenger Vehicle (MPV), subject to there being no TRO (Traffic Restriction Order) upon them, seasonal or otherwise - this is where it gets tricky in that you need to contact the lanes council office for information.

If you are caught illegally, you will be fined and made an example of as the new laws (NERCA) were passed at the end of March.

If you get taken to court, it is up to you to prove you were legally allowed to drive there.

It is a messy subject.

Lawrence

[Trugga]

Oh, and sorry Steve4, I still come accross people (new forum members included) who do not know the difference between legal green laning and pay and play sites (or "offroading")

I only want to educate so that we can continue to drive what little lanes there are left to drive.

Point of interest. Berfore the NERC Act, you were leagally allowed to drive approx 5% of the public rights of way in England and Wales. Now, post NERC, that figure is down to about 2.5%. Also, the National Parks control the use of lanes that pass through their area, rather than the local councils... Its a long and sad story.

Lawrence

[sollihull]

If you're caught illegally using a Green Lane then you deserve to be made an example of! (sorry that's my opinion! son of a cop & all that!)

But as you pointed out to me a while back Lawrence.
There aren't many Green Lanes accessable to me here!

and those people who think Off-Roading IS green laneing, they're wrong, we all know it from reading the GLASS and CRAG Rules!

those who abuse it can't call themselves "Respectfull"

I think I might as well stick to Fording!

[Drift]

Steve the next few weeks are a bit busy/expensive for me few weekends away babies christening in july and stuff but hopefully we can get a greenlaning day sorted , it would be a shame if you dont experiance it , fabulous day and views.
Plus we can get a p+p day sorted too.
Ste

[grimley.frontera]

Personally..

I'd love to do some Green Lanes..

P&P is ok to a point but I would imagine the scenery tends to be a bit "samey".. Quarry, mud hole, big puddle etc.

If all I wanted was that then I wouldn't have taken my truck off the road for the past 3 weeks, 2 weeks after buying it to sort it out MOT wise...

My interpertation of a Green Lane trip.. A gentle drive through the countryside with minimal risk of damge to the vehicle save for the odd scratch from bushes etc. Maybe get stuck and have a mate pull you out.. then stop at a pub at the end of the day...

Anyway.. I ramble on.. (no pun intended)...

If anyone is organising and GL trips around the Peterborough / Lincolnshire / Cambridgeshire / Huntingdonshire area in the near future, could they please let me know...

I know there is a regional GLASS group and have already looked on their website for info and laning dates...

Speaking of GLASS.. Lawrence, as a GLASS member, are there any affiliated Clubs in my area (other than Peterborough 4x4, who dont want to know you if you don't have the green oval or the pointy "S" on your vehicle), thanks for the Map Reading 101 by the way

Many thanks all and keep the ideas coming

Now, where did I put that compass ??

Chris.

[BUMPTJ]

Exmoorhttp://www.exmooradventures.com/

[BUMPTJ]

Snowdonia greenlaning runs greenlaner@speed-mail.co.uk

[BUMPTJ]

These guys are GLASS member in Derbyshire and run a few greenlaning eventshttp://www.badlrc.co.uk/greenlane.htm

[grimley.frontera]

I had a look at the BOFA site and I must say I was most impressed..

When the truck is up and running again, I think I'll sign up for one of their trips and then perhaps I could do you a small review if you would like that...

Plus my family is over in Birmingham so I could combine a visit on a Saturday, overnight in a Travelodge or B&B and then a drive round the forest on a Sunday..

I forgot to add, that I could try and negotiate a Group Discount too if there were enough interested parties..

Cheers all

Chris.

[BUMPTJ]

Any reviews would be great then we can build a database of whats good and whats not.