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Is this the VX badge ?

Postby Drift on Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:37 pm

Is this the badge on your bonnet ?
A wyvern (or wivern) is a winged reptilian legendary creature often found in medieval heraldry. Its usual blazon is statant (standing). The wyvern is similar to a European dragon, but it differs in that it has only two legs (thus making it rather bird-like), cannot breathe fire, and has a barbed or snake-like tail. Occasionally, it is said to be smaller than a dragon or to be able to breathe fire. The wyvern is similar to another mythical creature, the cockatrice, which is similar to the basilisk. Its sounds are similar to the tone of a whistle or flute.

Variants of the wyvern include the sea-wyvern, which has a fish-like tail. Of the dragon-like creatures, wyverns are said to be the most feline, having a cat-like intelligence and temperament. During the Middle Ages, they were supposedly the most useful of all dragons to sorcerers, as they had the unique ability to work easily with spells.

Or is it a Griffin?
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Postby Trugga on Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:44 pm

I thought it was referred to as a Griffin

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Postby Drift on Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:46 pm

Guess where the idea for this post came from :wink: :lol:

Its a good one for dedate.
I thought Griffin too.
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Postby Drift on Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:49 pm

Well here is the comparison.
Griffin
The Griffin (Greek gryphos, Persian شیردال‌ shirdal "lion-eagle") (also spelled gryphon and, less commonly, gryphen, griffon, griffen, or gryphin) is a legendary creature with the body of a lion and the head and wings of an eagle. As the lion was considered the "King of the Beasts" and the eagle the "King of the Air", the griffin was thought to be an especially powerful and majestic creature. The griffin is generally represented with four legs, wings and a beak, with eagle-like talons in place of a lion's forelegs and equine ears jutting from its skull. Some traditions say that only female griffins have wings. Some writers describe the tail as a serpent. See the entry Saint George and the Dragon for a 19th century painting of St George and the dragon, showing a dragon very like a classically-conceived griffin.
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Postby Trugga on Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:55 pm

Driftwood wrote:Guess where the idea for this post came from :wink: :lol: ...


Something in capital letters maybe ?

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Postby Drift on Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:57 pm

Yer rymes with drift poc :?
Best I could think of
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Postby Trugga on Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:01 pm

I asked the question.

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Postby Drift on Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:05 pm

Trugga wrote:I asked the question.

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Ermmm Im lost :? :?
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Postby darren816 on Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:51 pm

A bit late, I know.
I would guess that as the VX head office is at Griffin House, they meant for the badge to resemble a Griffin.
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Postby Drift on Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:27 pm

I think thats a very reasonable assumpsion Darren :D
Ill go along with that :)
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Re: Is this the VX badge ?

Postby Red Oktober on Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:33 pm

Driftwood wrote:Is this the badge on your bonnet ?
A wyvern (or wivern) is a winged reptilian legendary creature often found in medieval heraldry. Its usual blazon is statant (standing). The wyvern is similar to a European dragon, but it differs in that it has only two legs (thus making it rather bird-like), cannot breathe fire, and has a barbed or snake-like tail. Occasionally, it is said to be smaller than a dragon or to be able to breathe fire. The wyvern is similar to another mythical creature, the cockatrice, which is similar to the basilisk. Its sounds are similar to the tone of a whistle or flute.

Variants of the wyvern include the sea-wyvern, which has a fish-like tail. Of the dragon-like creatures, wyverns are said to be the most feline, having a cat-like intelligence and temperament. During the Middle Ages, they were supposedly the most useful of all dragons to sorcerers, as they had the unique ability to work easily with spells.

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WOW ste 8)
steady on m8 :D
i'm still trying to my head around all that welsh typeing :lol:
any chance of a translation in english (as this forum is meant to be) :lol:

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Postby Drift on Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:47 pm

Cant remember :oops:
My mate is welsh and I havent a clue , he told me how to say it :)
Dont tell jj though :wink:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I will have to email him what jj said and reply :lol:

To be honest even though Im a scouser I did know some Welsh but forgot nearly all of it, as my mum lives in North Wales and has done most of my life, so you pick it up.
North Wales has a slightly different dialect to the South Wales Welsh, so some words are different and mean different things.
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Postby john (smifffy) on Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:58 pm

Origins of the name and the logo
The griffin emblem, still in use, is derived from the coat of arms of Fulk le Breant, a mercenary soldier who was granted the Manor of Luton for services to King John in the 13th century. By marriage, he also gained the rights to an area near London, south of the Thames. The house he built, Fulk's Hall, became known in time as Vauxhall. Vauxhall Iron Works adopted this emblem from the coat of arms to emphasise its links to the local area. When Vauxhall Iron Works moved to Luton in 1905, the griffin emblem coincidentally returned to its ancestral home.
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Postby Drift on Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:07 am

Cheers John.
Who would have thought we could have learnt all this by a simple (yer I know) question :D
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Postby Red Oktober on Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:35 pm

is anything ever that simple ste
if one can find the answer ...........we all benefit
if one cannot find the answer............ then join the club :lol: :lol:


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Postby john (smifffy) on Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:46 pm

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Postby Red Oktober on Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:52 pm

Thats just made an interesting read
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Postby TonyG on Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:43 pm

What was the Vauxhall Wyvern named after then? (Yeah, I remember those :D )

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Postby Red Oktober on Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:54 pm

TonyG wrote:What was the Vauxhall Wyvern named after then? (Yeah, I remember those :D )

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Bloody'ell Tony ...thats going back a bit :shock: :lol: :lol:
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Postby john (smifffy) on Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:01 pm

it was named after a wyvern (or wivern)
is a legendary winged reptilian creature often found in medieval heraldry. Its usual blazon is statant (standing). Its origin is in Europe.

The name "wyvern" derived from the Saxon word Wivere, which means "serpent". The French wyvern is known as the Vouivre. Both words are etymologically related to viper.

The wyvern can be regarded as a type of or similar to a dragon. Depictions often include two legs and two wings[1]. Sometimes there are eagle's claws on the wingtips. The rest of its appearance can vary, such as appearing with a tail spade or with a serpent-like tail.

its a bit like the griffin in the vx badge





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