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Postby jmc on Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:56 pm

My 2.5 could do with new coil springs .
There are a few on eBay with varying prices which probably means varying quality so wondered if anybody had any thoughts on replacements?
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Re: Coil springs

Postby pot bellied pixie on Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:01 pm

Pity you are so far away .you could have swapped them for the ones on my soon to be scrapped fronty.
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Re: Coil springs

Postby lee771 on Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:26 pm

I've recently bought a pair off ebay from Jimmy bits. Meant to have been 2inch lift but only gave 1 inch nice and firm though and after 200 mile on them they seem good bit firmer than stock springs but have made up for the lack of rear antiroll bar. Haven't tried them off road yet though.
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Re: Coil springs

Postby jmc on Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:37 pm

Thanks for the replies and lee thanks for info on springs.
Knowsley is as you say quite a way to come.thanks for the offer pixie
Sorry to read you're about to scrap your 2.5.
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Re: Coil springs

Postby pot bellied pixie on Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:03 pm

Tin worm took her .RIP to the shed.
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Re: Coil springs

Postby jmc on Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:52 pm

Ahh ...... Yes , the reason for the demise of many a vehicle.
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Re: Coil springs

Postby jmc on Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:26 pm

Had a price from millers £80 a pair 20% stronger than standard ones.
Looked at Paddock ( landrover) spares and defender coils springs are 14 £ each ,they couldn't,t say if the would fit my frontera. They don't do frontera ones.
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Re: Coil springs

Postby lee771 on Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:36 pm

I'm sure that with the landrover ones you have to fit landrover spring seats as well as the springs dont fit in to the frontera ones.

Green oval stuff is dirt cheap in comparison its because of how much stuff is made for them brings the cost right down, plus because they break down all the time there is a need for a steady supplie of parts!!
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Re: Coil springs

Postby bhcalcutta on Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:54 pm

As above, defender coils are about 30mm wider in diameter than standard, but they are cheap. On an A series you have to add Landrover spring seats, you can just make out the LR seats bolted over the originals
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& you can make them fit in the top seats with the right isolation rubbers. Sorry, the picture attached isn't the best, & one day, I'll add a full report to my build thread.

Also, If you go with green oval springs, watch the poundage. I run with 340lb springs, and while they're good with my usual boot load (about 400kg day in, day out) when its empty it's way too hard for comfort
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Re: Coil springs

Postby Retro Pedro on Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:55 am

As said LR options - have a look on itocuk and search Terra Firma springs. There are a few options so it would be worth a read.
Guess it's all about what you use your truck for, daily runner carrying tools etc. or off road toy where you just want the ground clearance
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Re: Coil springs

Postby jmc on Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:29 pm

Thanks bhcalcutta and retropedro. I use my fronty daily and go out with it loaded with tools sometimes,and I use it for towing my trailer.
I would be happy with standard springs as a comfortable drive is what I would prefer.
My local LCP motor factors can get a pair for £80 inc bat,and there's are some on eBay for £66 for a pair free postage.
I much prefer to buy locally as it's easy to return things if the parts are not right but I would save £14.
Will be pondering.
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Re: Coil springs

Postby Wilberforce on Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:23 pm

How do Trooper springs compare?
I've got +2 springs to fit to my LWB Trooper, so the old ones will be spare afterwards
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Re: Coil springs

Postby RatCav on Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:25 pm

Trooper springs will be a direct fit. Might also give a little lift as the Trooper is heavier. Depends on how saggy the Trooper springs are though.
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Re: Coil springs

Postby jmc on Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:35 pm

Hi wilberforce,thanks for the offer. I don't know about trooper springs nut I am think I would prefer new springs as mine went quite quickly at about 170,000 miles. My thoughts are that using used springs they might go as well.
I have been under the back looking at them and how are they changed? It looks as though they just sit in place, I can't see any means of them being fixed down.
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Re: Coil springs

Postby lee771 on Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:06 pm

There held in by pressure. The shock and anti roll bar keep them in place.

When I did my ones I jacked up on side taking the weight off the spring undid the roll bar drop link and the shock nd you can take the spring straight out and the new one straight in no need for compressors. Then do the shock and roll bar back up.

Took me a hour with basic hand tools to do both
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Re: Coil springs

Postby jmc on Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:42 pm

Thanks lee for the description of how to replace them. I am encouraged that it didn't take too long. Have been watching some replacements on you tube of jeep replacement springs none quite the same as a fronty.
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Re: Coil springs

Postby lee771 on Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:55 pm

Tbf the first side took me a good 40 minuets cuz i didon't undo the drop link and used a spring compressor what a pain the rear that was ended up having to undo the drop link any way to get the new one in as I couldn't compress it far enough second side took me less than 20 minuets just undid the drop link straight away lesson learnt
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Re: Coil springs

Postby snapper on Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:11 pm

On Truck...

1. With the rear wheels still on the ground and the standard suspension springs under their normal compression I noted the angle of the brake compensation arm in relation to the chassis at the compensation valve and the distance of the arm end at the rubber joint on the axle to the chassis cross member above it and then released it at the axle end.

2. Then jacked the whole back end up and put a axle stand on each side under the chassis rail next to the trailing arm mounting point, and lowered the truck onto them.

3. Repositioned the jack to the diff, took up the axle weight, removed both rear wheels and undid the lower mount on each shock.

4. With the axle still held in position by the two lower and the single upper trailing arms I was able to lower it enough to release the standard springs and fit the plus 2" springs without recourse to a spring compressor.

5. Then gently jacked the axle back up until I could re-fit the lower mounts on each shock absorber.

6. Wheels back on and tighten up, then jack up enough to remove the two axle stands and lower the vehicle to the ground. Remove jack to leave the vehicle putting the suspension under it's normal compression.

7. Adjust the front suspension to level the vehicle.

8. Adjust the brake compensation arm mount on the axle along with the arm to restore the previously recorded measurements (step 1) and re-fit the mount to the rubber joint.

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Re: Coil springs

Postby jmc on Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:43 pm

Thank you very much snapper for the very detailed description of how to replace them. I think I could do them from reading it.
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