still cant get this. (new owner fog)(please help asap(

[dave-mr2-frontera]

right the wheels is off and the hub is apart now does anybody now were the location of the circlip and washer are ment to be they seem fine. as the the washer is not fallen out.? does any circlip go on the drive shaft to stop it from moving through it seems flush and does not want to move. you know the wee spring thing well when i push that unit in the drive shaft move but does not move when i dont how does this work to engage the 4wd. hope yopu understand all this lol try move sence of it

[dave-mr2-frontera]

is there ment to be 2 circlips and one waher or just one circlip to hold the washer in place.?


does a circlip go round the drive shaft to hold it in place so there for the drive shaft is pulling on the unit with the spring and engaging the hub cover with the teeth. as it stand is not hitting the teeth on the cover ?

[Trugga]

There should be one snap ring and one washer.

Lawrence

[dave-mr2-frontera]

lovly right i dont have the snap ring or the washer were excatly do they go mate thats all that stopping my 4x4 from working thank you mate your the man if you can just tell me were they go your a legand am so happy right now

[Red Oktober]

the curclip goes in the slot at the end of the drive shaft ....

i'll get a pic in the morning with it all in place

[Trugga]

"muddypluka"'s photo

Once you've removed the 6 bolts and the end cap (and the outer body) the snap ring and washer is the next thing you need to remove in order to remove the mechanism.

Lawrence

[marlbororman]

If you cant see the groove where the circlip fits into, try getting a mate to push the shaft inwards through the wheel from behind the hub, it makes it a little easier, coz when trying to get the clip on, you tend to push on the shaft.

[dave-mr2-frontera]

ace you boys no your stuff! right do you know the size of the circlip and snap ring that i need to get from vauxhall as there are 10 diffrent sizes(so they said) and there are none in stock i have tride to push the drift shaft through but it just going flush so i cant get the circlip on even if i had one think i will have to get a little more elbo greese into it me thinks

[I Live For FOG]

read this thread

http://fronteraowners.co.uk/v-web/bulle ... highlight=

[dave-mr2-frontera]

have done mate but its a wee bit breif for me am not used to 4wd at all i used to have a mr2 rev 3 turbo lol. well still got it just need new piston rings lol. i just dont now were the washer and circlip goes. i know it goes at the end of the drive shaft but i dont now the size of the washer and circlip to put back on as vauxhall need a size as there are 10 different once. mine have vanished dont know how i could have gone its a sealed unit but no mater

[I Live For FOG]

you have pm

[dave-mr2-frontera]

alright mate ceers for that i phone they vauxhall dealers and they have any in stock lol ust my luck eh so back to breakers the morn bril but will get there in the end

[Trugga]

I've got two new (unused) ones here (that I no longer need)

PM me your postal address and I'll mail 'em up to you.



I lost one origonal, so bought my local VX dealers entire stock (the three shown above) - but I only ever needed 1 (I now have manual hubs with a different size circlip so these are suplus to requirements)

Feel free to make a donation to FOG

Lawrence

[shinyheed]

or get around this problem how i did

screw a bolt into the end of the drive shaft and tack weld it in place, cut its head off so its just threaded bar, then assemble all the hub

find a washer just larger than the hole you can see the drive shaft in

put that washer on and then and then put a nut on the threaded bar sticking thru the washer, gently tighten the nut to put the drive shaft into position in the hub (do not over tighten, just needs to be finger tight)

then tack the washer to the hub, and the nut to the washer (just tack weld tho so when you need to get it off a long bar and socket will break the weld)

we did this on my old sport as it kept having the circlip come off the end of the shaft when i used 4wd in anger

i'd wished i'd done it earlier as it fixed the problem completely

the washer sat where i've highlighted red



(my hubs had the springs removed so they were permanently engaged so i never had a hub slip, this may not work with the autolock springs fitted, i'm sure it would work but i've not got mine to look at to check so check first)

[Trugga]

Be aware that the end of drive shaft snap rings should be replaced once removed, as they do stretch (making them loose when refitting)

The following picture shows new snap rings above and old (removed and replaced a couple of times) below:



Lawrence

[alex]

I just got a selection of circlips from halfrauds and fitted the best match. made re-fitting easier as I could use circlip pliers.

[dave-mr2-frontera]

i phoned halfrauds and they said they dont stock them lol.
i got a set of wahsers and snap clips off a a other frontera put it all to gether and nothing front still not working i dont know if it should be a bigger washer ? but i dont think i put the snap clip on right on one side as i could not pull it through to clip it right on. well check the morn when it light being a pain you know if one side of the front is not cliped in right will this stop the hole front from working. so i have 2 diffrent sizes of washer very small diff but one is slitly thicker will put that one on

[shinyheed]

even without the circlip the 4wd will likely work, unless the drive shaft slips far enough back to disengage,

if it does then the drive shaft will turn without turning the front wheels, easily spotted by jacking the front and back up and putting it in gear and letting the wheels spin

the problem is that the circlip allowing the driveshaft to move back can mean the shaft strips its teeth , but also if it slips and then suddenly grabs you can often say goodbye to your front diff

[dave-mr2-frontera]

i see will try that then mate cheers will need to get the front washer one first then jack the beast up

[Trugga]

Maybe there is a deeper issue here.

Jack up the front of the vehicle so both front wheels are off the ground, secure on axel stands.

Ensure 2H is selected (not 4H or 4L)

From under the vehicle, rotate the front propshaft by hand - both drive shafts should rotate

If both front driveshafts rotate, I can't understand why the front wheels don't drive - the snap ring can't be that much of an issue - can it.

If neither drive shaft turn, then I would suspect an issue with the differential.

Lawrence