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Postby Trugga on Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:37 pm

Driftwood wrote:Hi folks, just off topic for a moment as this is a safety issue and could save you alot of messing and fixing.
This pic shows a very poor recovery techneque.
The strop is around the bull bar posts and could very very easily rip the bar of and cause damage and even injury when it flys off.
The correct usage if using the bull bar is the low down loops mouned on most bars under the bumper, even these should only be used for light recovery, as they are not that strong.
Uprating recovery points is a very good idea that is very often overlooked.
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Well spotted Ste, and I concur.

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Postby Guest on Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:44 pm

What about welding stronger recovery points to the chassis?
my front valence bar (a low down stump rock mover)
is welded as well as bolted
at the 4 x 4 world record i managed to releive a range rover
of his nudge bars lol
seriously though
is welding to the chassis a good or bad thing
mine had never let me down yet
but i cannot remove it as it is welded
what are the best/recommended add ons for recovery points
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Postby Drift on Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:53 pm

Is you BBar welded to the chassi? if so using it with low down recovery points will be fine, but I bet my bottom dollar most bull bars are held on with one bolt each side :wink:

I have a black cat recovery hook to fit, Carl has just fitted one think they are 10T tested and thats geting drilled and bolted to chassi.
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Postby fuzion on Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:31 pm

Driftwood wrote:Hi folks, just off topic for a moment as this is a safety issue and could save you alot of messing and fixing.
This pic shows a very poor recovery techneque.
The strop is around the bull bar posts and could very very easily rip the bar of and cause damage and even injury when it flys off.
The correct usage if using the bull bar is the low down loops mouned on most bars under the bumper, even these should only be used for light recovery, as they are not that strong.
Uprating recovery points is a very good idea that is very often overlooked.
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Off me box now :wink:
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That will be me showing my ignorance in recovery technique :oops: :oops: :roll: :roll:

Be gentle, it was only the second recovery i had attempted :shock:

We did look, but could not find any recovery points on the stuck SWB, so gently tugged it off its belly.

But now its pointed out, yes i get the point :wink:
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Postby Red Oktober on Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:37 pm

Driftwood wrote:Is you BBar welded to the chassi? if so using it with low down recovery points will be fine, but I bet my bottom dollar most bull bars are held on with one bolt each side :wink:

I have a black cat recovery hook to fit, Carl has just fitted one think they are 10T tested and thats geting drilled and bolted to chassi.
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one of these bolted to your chassis

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Postby jond66uk on Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:52 pm

Just for the record guys, Matt pulled me out of trouble by using the towing eyes at the bottom of my bull bar (thanks Matt) so dont be too hard on him Image
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Postby fuzion on Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:53 pm

Just to clarify, we did look for towing eyes on the stuck sport :wink:

But could not find one :shock:

So the car was gently tugged off its belly.

With hind sight, not a wise way to recover anyone. Wont be doing that again :D
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Postby fedup on Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:00 pm

Bolting or welding is fine as long as they are up to the job!
I prefer welding, but then again i was a welder for a structural steel fabrication company for a few years!
The eyes on some of the bull bars are ok for a little light recovery, but nothing major, the loops you find bolted to the front of the chassis and welded to the rear cross member that houses the tow ball are only tie down lashings for transportation and should never be used for recovery!

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Postby jond66uk on Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:02 pm

Then surely the best thing to do is bolt it then weld it. Best of both worlds lol
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Postby toppo_69 on Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:03 pm

thanks for using me to demonstrate your point lawrence lol,
at least ill know for next time
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Postby fedup on Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:14 pm

jond66uk wrote:Then surely the best thing to do is bolt it then weld it. Best of both worlds lol


there is no point!

If it is designd to be bolted, then as long as you do the job correctly it will be fine!
If one of these types of recovery hooks are to be mounted to the chassis rails then the bolts should be sleeved in a tube exactly the same length as the width of the chassis rails. oversized washers should be used on the side opposite the recovery hook
This will prevent you from pinching/crushing your chassis rail when tightening or when under load!

I just prefer to weld as it saves messing around!

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